obama care, they've got nothing out of it so they feel they will be hung out to dry if they do a deal. >> you know, there are so many pots and plans clattering around the chamber and what bothers me he is the lopsidedness of the debate. how about the g.o.p. for decades never said we are the ones delivering the middle class tax cuts. these are middle class tax rates that were enacted undergeorge w. bush. we own these for the middle class, not the democrats. why isn't the g.o.p. stepping up for that. >> i guess because they have no historical memory, a democrat hasn't done this since jfk. back in the early 1960's. and he got a huge amount of protest. >> clinton lowered the capital gains tax and because of that a huge boom in the stock market. >> the tax cuts barely passed at the early part of 2000. why didn't they make them permanent and we could have avoid this had kind of discussion? >> tax policies extremely difficult. they put it through the so-called reconciliation process, which doesn't require 60 votes. reconciliation laws, sunset after ten years, they're not permanent and that's